Crema Coffee Shop downtown

Open only since last October, Crema, a great little coffee shop on Fayetteville Street in downtown Raleigh, serves Seattle, Washington coffee brand Gillano, which Tim tells me roasts the finest one to two percent of all available fair trade beans.  Nearby office workers drop in for lunch or coffee or both; some are sitting in a corner where comfy chairs and little tables make a great meeting space.  They seem to be having a conference.  Light jazz is playing in the background; the door is open onto Fayetteville street, which seems to have more foot traffic than vehicles, at least at this time of day–3 PM.  Regulars come in and talk to Tim and the people being the counter, who know many of their names.  Newcomers to Crema (like me) are wandering in, their comments such as “well, that was good,” and “let’s come here again” revealing they are not only first timers, they are charmed.  There is a small flyer taped to the door that says they are closing early tomorrow, at 3 PM, due to an anticipated birth, and on the counter there is a jar holding folded slips of paper, and another sign:  Guess Tim and Lauren’s twins’ combined weight, and win free coffee and lunches.  I asked Tim nosy questions such as, When is she due? (tomorrow!)  How much does she weigh, etc, then wrote my guess and dropped it into the jar.  I am sure I will not win as I am lousy at those kinds of things, but I am enjoying the spirit of this place which is light hearted, jokey and friendly.  The latte tastes wonderful, too.  Unfortunately, they stop making sandwiches at 3 PM.  (I don’t know why this number 3 keeps coming up).  They do serve home made ice cream along with coffee, and many different kinds of sweets, which I will not try today as I have had too many sweets and no food to speak of.  Along the storefront are counters and stools; tables and chairs are in the center of the shop.  This place is busy, but laid back. Out on the sidewalk are tables being well used.  I parked right out front.  That was sheer luck, though.  Someone pulled out, and being a native Washingtonian (as in District, not Seattle) I am an expert parallel parker.

Try Crema; it is one of the newer businesses that have opened up along Fayetteville street in the revitalization of downtown.  They are open Mon-Fri 7 AM to 7 PM; Sat 7 AM to 10 PM; Sun 11 to 5 PM.  I want to hug them just for staying open after 5 on weekdays, and on Saturdays, as the most serious problem with coffee shops in Raleigh, is that they think no one wants coffee after 5 PM, so they all close at 5 or 6.  Show me a dead downtown and I’ll show you not a lack of night clubs, but a lack of diners, coffee shops, convenience stores that are open at night.  For night people, such as myself, who also drink coffee, this is a crime.  I have spent many early evenings walking around or driving around with friends looking for an open coffee shop.  As far as we can tell, there’s only Royal Bean (across from Meredith); New World Coffee House (Pleasant Valley and Glenwood); Cup A Joe (various locations), Third Place (Five Points, crowded and wireless is usually not strong enough, although coffee is!) and Helios (Glenwood South) catering to night people who drink coffee.  If you know any others, tell me (but not outside the Raleigh city line.  I’ll only go so far for coffee).  I favor Larry’s Beans coffee cause it is local and was fair trade organic before that was the cool thing to be; Third Place and New World have Larry’s. 


Note–this is not meant to be a comprehensive detailed list of coffee shops good and bad.  It started out as a “Try Crema” — so try it.  If you want to add comments about your favorite coffee shop (in Raleigh) I’d love to hear.  No Starbucks or Caribou please; they are the number one and two highest profit-generating coffee chains in the world.  They can do their own advertising.

  • http://bethellison.blogspot.com/ Beth

    Taylor’s BP on Six Forks Road sells Larry’s Beans and has an insane wine selection. Yeah, it’s a convenience store so it isn’t a place to go hang out, really. But it’s definitely some of the best coffee-to-go in North Raleigh. And they have wine tastings once a month, which I find hilarious and odd. I heard they get a really good turnout for those. I’m going next time.

  • http://bethellison.blogspot.com Beth

    Taylor’s BP on Six Forks Road sells Larry’s Beans and has an insane wine selection. Yeah, it’s a convenience store so it isn’t a place to go hang out, really. But it’s definitely some of the best coffee-to-go in North Raleigh. And they have wine tastings once a month, which I find hilarious and odd. I heard they get a really good turnout for those. I’m going next time.

  • rhonda

    BP as in gas station?! Wow. Is that the gas station in the shopping center that has Percolator Coffee Shop (which we fondly call the “Perky” and has only one fault, not open in the evenings–unless it has changed recently) The intersection of 6 forks and falls of neuse I think?

  • rhonda

    BP as in gas station?! Wow. Is that the gas station in the shopping center that has Percolator Coffee Shop (which we fondly call the “Perky” and has only one fault, not open in the evenings–unless it has changed recently) The intersection of 6 forks and falls of neuse I think?

  • http://dailypop.wordpress.com/ Jen

    We’re new to the area, and it’s so good to hear such a positive review of a small coffee shop (especially after being frustrated by the proliferation of chain shops). Thanks, will try Crema definitely!

  • http://dailypop.wordpress.com Jen

    We’re new to the area, and it’s so good to hear such a positive review of a small coffee shop (especially after being frustrated by the proliferation of chain shops). Thanks, will try Crema definitely!

  • http://bethellison.blogspot.com/ Beth

    The Percolator isn’t on Six Forks. That’s Millbrook and Falls. Or Millbrook and Wake Forest Rd. I forget. But Taylor’s BP is on Six Forks out past The Forum office complex, just after the 540 overpass.

  • http://bethellison.blogspot.com Beth

    The Percolator isn’t on Six Forks. That’s Millbrook and Falls. Or Millbrook and Wake Forest Rd. I forget. But Taylor’s BP is on Six Forks out past The Forum office complex, just after the 540 overpass.

  • http://www.deboerworks.com/ Bruce

    The Morning Times on Hargett – not sure what beans they buy.

  • http://www.deboerworks.com Bruce

    The Morning Times on Hargett – not sure what beans they buy.

  • http://www.deboerworks.com/ Bruce

    The Morning Times on Morgan – not sure what beans they buy.

  • http://www.deboerworks.com Bruce

    The Morning Times on Morgan – not sure what beans they buy.

  • Q

    I also love this place. Amazing pastries…ask them for a chocolate biscuit!!
    http://www.raleighing.com/2007/03/review_hereghty.html

  • Q

    I also love this place. Amazing pastries…ask them for a chocolate biscuit!!
    http://www.raleighing.com/2007/03/review_hereghty.html

  • Matt K

    I’ll put in a vote for Port City Java – which also has a location on Fayetteville Street. It is a chain, like Starbucks – albeit, a much smaller one. I think it deserves a mention, as it originated in Wilmington (hence the name “Port City”) so that makes it a North Carolina original. :) Crema does sound like an interesting place, I will indeed have to check it out when i get a chance.

  • Beth Y.

    Although I love Hereghty’s for the pastry, Helio’s, COJ and Third Place for the “ambiance”, I really think that Crema has about the best cup of coffee in town. Very strong and still smooth. Always make an excuse to stop whenever I am downtown. Also, they have Shock-a-Lots for sale, which, if you have never had them, are stronger than the average choc.-covered coffee bean and great to keep around for when you don’t have time to grab a cup and need a caffiene fix. I have never seen them on sale elsewhere in the city.

  • Matt K

    I’ll put in a vote for Port City Java – which also has a location on Fayetteville Street. It is a chain, like Starbucks – albeit, a much smaller one. I think it deserves a mention, as it originated in Wilmington (hence the name “Port City”) so that makes it a North Carolina original. :) Crema does sound like an interesting place, I will indeed have to check it out when i get a chance.

  • Beth Y.

    Although I love Hereghty’s for the pastry, Helio’s, COJ and Third Place for the “ambiance”, I really think that Crema has about the best cup of coffee in town. Very strong and still smooth. Always make an excuse to stop whenever I am downtown. Also, they have Shock-a-Lots for sale, which, if you have never had them, are stronger than the average choc.-covered coffee bean and great to keep around for when you don’t have time to grab a cup and need a caffiene fix. I have never seen them on sale elsewhere in the city.

  • MV

    This must be related to the Crema Coffee I used to frequent when I mistakenly lived in Cary? Does this one feature a super friendly dude with a WV bus? Either way, I guess I’ll be trying it soon.

  • MV

    This must be related to the Crema Coffee I used to frequent when I mistakenly lived in Cary? Does this one feature a super friendly dude with a WV bus? Either way, I guess I’ll be trying it soon.

  • rhonda

    I agree that The Morning Times is terrific; very friendly, happy staff–even when the temp. was about 90 degrees inside one day last week. They have an awesome large upstairs space with couches and tables; well chosen area artists display their art up there. (AC upstairs is new and works fine!)
    However–their one flaw is the same flaw I mentioned above; a flaw that Crema doesn’t share (except when the birth of twins is imminent)–now pay attention Raleighings:
    They Do Not Stay Open After 5 PM!!!
    There are many very good coffee shops around Raleigh. But very few are open at night. I don’t know why. This is not the case in other cities the size of Raleigh. Even on Hillsborough across from NC State, where a shop would attract a college crowd at nights, the coffee places close early, around 6-7 PM. Further down on Hillsborough, across from Merdith, the Royal Bean stays open every night until about 10 or 11, which is an exception. And they have plenty of customers at night, or did last time I checked (sorry, I do not like their coffee at all which is a shame because it is a great, large space with interesting stuff going on, and wireless internet that works well)
    Hereghty’s does indeed have great coffee and a friendly staff, as well some of the best pastries and confections in town. They do stay open late on Sat. nights, and have music, or did (I’ve been out of town awhile) but on weekdays close around 7 or 8. That’s a little better than many others, but not late enough.
    In Asheville (please don’t call me a Holy Grail seeker or something–just happened to be there a week or so ago) all the coffee shops were open late, and–get this–the newest one is open
    !!!!24 Hours A Day!!!!
    So, tell me
    1. Coffee shops you know of that stay open late, besides those already mentioned
    2. Your explanations or guesses as to why Raleigh coffee shops, not just downtown, but all over, close so early?

  • rhonda

    I agree that The Morning Times is terrific; very friendly, happy staff–even when the temp. was about 90 degrees inside one day last week. They have an awesome large upstairs space with couches and tables; well chosen area artists display their art up there. (AC upstairs is new and works fine!)
    However–their one flaw is the same flaw I mentioned above; a flaw that Crema doesn’t share (except when the birth of twins is imminent)–now pay attention Raleighings:
    They Do Not Stay Open After 5 PM!!!
    There are many very good coffee shops around Raleigh. But very few are open at night. I don’t know why. This is not the case in other cities the size of Raleigh. Even on Hillsborough across from NC State, where a shop would attract a college crowd at nights, the coffee places close early, around 6-7 PM. Further down on Hillsborough, across from Merdith, the Royal Bean stays open every night until about 10 or 11, which is an exception. And they have plenty of customers at night, or did last time I checked (sorry, I do not like their coffee at all which is a shame because it is a great, large space with interesting stuff going on, and wireless internet that works well)
    Hereghty’s does indeed have great coffee and a friendly staff, as well some of the best pastries and confections in town. They do stay open late on Sat. nights, and have music, or did (I’ve been out of town awhile) but on weekdays close around 7 or 8. That’s a little better than many others, but not late enough.
    In Asheville (please don’t call me a Holy Grail seeker or something–just happened to be there a week or so ago) all the coffee shops were open late, and–get this–the newest one is open
    !!!!24 Hours A Day!!!!
    So, tell me
    1. Coffee shops you know of that stay open late, besides those already mentioned
    2. Your explanations or guesses as to why Raleigh coffee shops, not just downtown, but all over, close so early?

  • M

    Percolator’s at the corner of Falls of Neuse and Millbrook. 5039 Falls of Neuse, to be exact. They’ve got Cup A Joe coffee, and somehow they make it taste a lot better than Cup A Joe. Check ‘em out!

  • M

    Percolator’s at the corner of Falls of Neuse and Millbrook. 5039 Falls of Neuse, to be exact. They’ve got Cup A Joe coffee, and somehow they make it taste a lot better than Cup A Joe. Check ‘em out!

  • Raleighrob

    Great review of Crema–definitely a great addition to downtown Raleigh and I’m glad they’re here now.
    Go for the coffee…but stay for the ice cream! I went there once and got some chocolate frozen yogurt with chunks of Oreos and Cheesecake mixed in. HEAVEN. You can’t go wrong here.

  • Raleighrob

    Great review of Crema–definitely a great addition to downtown Raleigh and I’m glad they’re here now.
    Go for the coffee…but stay for the ice cream! I went there once and got some chocolate frozen yogurt with chunks of Oreos and Cheesecake mixed in. HEAVEN. You can’t go wrong here.

  • erin

    the turkish coffee place on glenwood in the bright purple house stays open late. in fall 2005 LATE one night (i think 10ish on a sunday night) they were the only place between NCSU campus and downtown open with coffee. they also have good ice cream.

  • erin

    the turkish coffee place on glenwood in the bright purple house stays open late. in fall 2005 LATE one night (i think 10ish on a sunday night) they were the only place between NCSU campus and downtown open with coffee. they also have good ice cream.

  • http://raleighphilosociety.blogspot.com/ Matt

    All mentioned are great coffee places. I’ve found the staff at Percolator to be the most un-friendly customer service-oriented establishment in the area.

  • http://raleighphilosociety.blogspot.com Matt

    All mentioned are great coffee places. I’ve found the staff at Percolator to be the most un-friendly customer service-oriented establishment in the area.

  • Percolator

    I’ve never seen this man in my life.

  • Percolator

    I’ve never seen this man in my life.

  • http://www.therevitalist.com/ Liz

    Did anyone notice that Raleigh metro was listed as one of the best upcoming coffee towns in the country in the latest issue of Imbibe Magazine?
    http://www.imbibemagazine.com
    (I don’t work for the magazine, I was just pleasantly surprised to see Raleigh mentioned!)

  • http://www.therevitalist.com Liz

    Did anyone notice that Raleigh metro was listed as one of the best upcoming coffee towns in the country in the latest issue of Imbibe Magazine?
    http://www.imbibemagazine.com
    (I don’t work for the magazine, I was just pleasantly surprised to see Raleigh mentioned!)

  • ml

    I second the purple house on Glenwood. It’s called Turkish Delights. Aside from a good cup of joe, you can get an awesome cup of Turkish coffee if you’ve got the balls for it. If not, the Turkish tea is really good too. I’m not an ice cream person, but their pastries? To die for. All made by the very cool Turkish sisters who run the place.

  • ml

    I second the purple house on Glenwood. It’s called Turkish Delights. Aside from a good cup of joe, you can get an awesome cup of Turkish coffee if you’ve got the balls for it. If not, the Turkish tea is really good too. I’m not an ice cream person, but their pastries? To die for. All made by the very cool Turkish sisters who run the place.

  • rhonda

    You have got be kidding. Raleigh one of the best coffee towns? Did this magazine say WHY?
    Actually I shouldn’t be surprised; for some reason Raleigh gets onto every Top Ten List in the country for anything and everything. It would be funny if it wasn’t kind of sad; being a nosy type person, whenever I meet someone who is new to Raleigh I ask them what brought them here. The past three or four years, I get more “we heard (or read) it was a great place” answers than the more usual reasons for moving–for work, to be near family or friends . . . not even because they visited and loved the place. I am amazed to find people would move to a place without spending some time there first, unless they had to for work, etc.
    I know a lot of people who have lived here for awhile walking around scratching their heads and saying “Where is this Raleigh that people are moving to? We can’t find it. what does it look like?” And newcomers are walking around trying hard not to look perplexed, but clearly also looking, searching, with the same question they don’t won’t admit to because– well . . what a mistake if they’d been scammed by hype. Must be here . . . somewhere.
    Don’t get me wrong! I love Raleigh. I just do not understand why this town gets on these Best Cities list. It is not the best city to live, by far. When I travel, people say, Ah, you are from Raleigh! And they are impressed! By me! Because I am from Raleigh!! But they have never been here; they just have some vague notion that this is the coolest place in the world. If I ask for details, they can not recall why.
    There is no explanation for this other than there must be some very aggressive highly paid PR people marketing this city across the country to get people to move here. Raleigh is being marketed and hyped the way all things are sold today, even wars. If you build it (in your imagination) they will come. Someone has crossed a line or paid some money, made up a fantasy Raleigh. They have lied.
    Sorry for the rant (above is all conjecture and my opinion, no facts except my questioning people and the answers I got)
    Back to coffee.
    The Turkish purple house on Glenwood sounds great and I have always wanted to try it, now I will!
    This reminds me that there are some great little hole in the wall Viet Nam restaurants around Cap Blvd/ Atlantic AVe area that serve wonderful strong coffee Viet Nam style–where they put that little metal pot on top of your cup, and thick coffee drips down and mixes with condensed milk in the bottom of the cup. I just love it. However, I don’t think these little restaurants are why people move to Raleigh (sorry I can’t even remember their names and exactly where they are) But stay tuned to Raleighing because there is a little gem of a city underneath the one that is being hyped; this one is real and real people can help you find it.

  • rhonda

    You have got be kidding. Raleigh one of the best coffee towns? Did this magazine say WHY?
    Actually I shouldn’t be surprised; for some reason Raleigh gets onto every Top Ten List in the country for anything and everything. It would be funny if it wasn’t kind of sad; being a nosy type person, whenever I meet someone who is new to Raleigh I ask them what brought them here. The past three or four years, I get more “we heard (or read) it was a great place” answers than the more usual reasons for moving–for work, to be near family or friends . . . not even because they visited and loved the place. I am amazed to find people would move to a place without spending some time there first, unless they had to for work, etc.
    I know a lot of people who have lived here for awhile walking around scratching their heads and saying “Where is this Raleigh that people are moving to? We can’t find it. what does it look like?” And newcomers are walking around trying hard not to look perplexed, but clearly also looking, searching, with the same question they don’t won’t admit to because– well . . what a mistake if they’d been scammed by hype. Must be here . . . somewhere.
    Don’t get me wrong! I love Raleigh. I just do not understand why this town gets on these Best Cities list. It is not the best city to live, by far. When I travel, people say, Ah, you are from Raleigh! And they are impressed! By me! Because I am from Raleigh!! But they have never been here; they just have some vague notion that this is the coolest place in the world. If I ask for details, they can not recall why.
    There is no explanation for this other than there must be some very aggressive highly paid PR people marketing this city across the country to get people to move here. Raleigh is being marketed and hyped the way all things are sold today, even wars. If you build it (in your imagination) they will come. Someone has crossed a line or paid some money, made up a fantasy Raleigh. They have lied.
    Sorry for the rant (above is all conjecture and my opinion, no facts except my questioning people and the answers I got)
    Back to coffee.
    The Turkish purple house on Glenwood sounds great and I have always wanted to try it, now I will!
    This reminds me that there are some great little hole in the wall Viet Nam restaurants around Cap Blvd/ Atlantic AVe area that serve wonderful strong coffee Viet Nam style–where they put that little metal pot on top of your cup, and thick coffee drips down and mixes with condensed milk in the bottom of the cup. I just love it. However, I don’t think these little restaurants are why people move to Raleigh (sorry I can’t even remember their names and exactly where they are) But stay tuned to Raleighing because there is a little gem of a city underneath the one that is being hyped; this one is real and real people can help you find it.

  • David

    That is an interesting comment, Rhonda. Just in the last few days I have noticed Raleigh/Cary making lists on publications I had never even heard of, all following the Money and Forbes lists we all have been seeing over the last few years.
    I think if one were to look at the relocation situation from the perspective of someone moving here, we might find some answers. The Midwest economy (largely) has been tanking for a number of years, the Northeast and Florida are too expensive, add in crime, weather, lack of jobs, traffic.
    Then consider that our area has positives in all those categories. The one thing it is missing is a really vibrant nightlife/downtown. That appears to be changing as well for the better. I do not mean this as another plug for the area, however, when I consider other cities, there is always one or two major drawbacks that prevent me from considering it (ex. bad schools, cost of living).

  • David

    That is an interesting comment, Rhonda. Just in the last few days I have noticed Raleigh/Cary making lists on publications I had never even heard of, all following the Money and Forbes lists we all have been seeing over the last few years.
    I think if one were to look at the relocation situation from the perspective of someone moving here, we might find some answers. The Midwest economy (largely) has been tanking for a number of years, the Northeast and Florida are too expensive, add in crime, weather, lack of jobs, traffic.
    Then consider that our area has positives in all those categories. The one thing it is missing is a really vibrant nightlife/downtown. That appears to be changing as well for the better. I do not mean this as another plug for the area, however, when I consider other cities, there is always one or two major drawbacks that prevent me from considering it (ex. bad schools, cost of living).

  • Beth Y.

    Obviously, we are taking this thread off subject, but I want to point out that a huge number of people making moving decisions these days are not moving to a place because it has a cool downtown, or hot clubs. They are moving to a place that has good available jobs, affordable homes, safe neighborhoods, decent schools, etc. If the place has these things and good places to spend your time, like parks (Raleigh has one of the best park systems in the country), malls (its the truth), restaurants, sports and entertainmentetc. then it is a “good town to live in”. Look at the criteria they use for those list “cool restaurants” is not a huge factor. I don’t know what the people you talk to are looking for, but we have a incredible art museum for a city our size, an incredible ballet, good and varied theater, most of the major touring plays and bands come through here and there are great local music venues,good restaurants, good ethnic food, great parks, etc. If you look in the Independant on any given week, there are more “things to do” than my family can think of doing. No, we are not New York or Chicago, but, for our size, we are pretty great and getting better. I have friends in DC and L.A. who can’t understand why I live here…they say their towns have all the “happening” stuff. But they live SO FAR out of town, that they NEVER go anywhere. I visit them and say “lets go to X” and they say “oh, it takes to long and costs too much, lets just stay here” I moved here from DC. Here, I can afford to live close to downtown and to buy tickets to see plays and concerts and eat in nice restaurnats. To me, it is a much better lifestyle than any city I have lived in. If you are not finding things to do, you are being lazy and spending too much time in front of your TV, or waiting to be entertained.

  • Beth Y.

    Obviously, we are taking this thread off subject, but I want to point out that a huge number of people making moving decisions these days are not moving to a place because it has a cool downtown, or hot clubs. They are moving to a place that has good available jobs, affordable homes, safe neighborhoods, decent schools, etc. If the place has these things and good places to spend your time, like parks (Raleigh has one of the best park systems in the country), malls (its the truth), restaurants, sports and entertainmentetc. then it is a “good town to live in”. Look at the criteria they use for those list “cool restaurants” is not a huge factor. I don’t know what the people you talk to are looking for, but we have a incredible art museum for a city our size, an incredible ballet, good and varied theater, most of the major touring plays and bands come through here and there are great local music venues,good restaurants, good ethnic food, great parks, etc. If you look in the Independant on any given week, there are more “things to do” than my family can think of doing. No, we are not New York or Chicago, but, for our size, we are pretty great and getting better. I have friends in DC and L.A. who can’t understand why I live here…they say their towns have all the “happening” stuff. But they live SO FAR out of town, that they NEVER go anywhere. I visit them and say “lets go to X” and they say “oh, it takes to long and costs too much, lets just stay here” I moved here from DC. Here, I can afford to live close to downtown and to buy tickets to see plays and concerts and eat in nice restaurnats. To me, it is a much better lifestyle than any city I have lived in. If you are not finding things to do, you are being lazy and spending too much time in front of your TV, or waiting to be entertained.

  • rhonda

    I agree that Raleigh has a great park system; the greenways, community centers and small neighborhood parks are about the best I’ve seen. Recreation classes and activities at the centers are really inexpensive compared to other cities this size. My favorite thing about Raleigh is the number of ancient oak trees that rival the redwoods. The libraries are good; there’s enough nightlife and good restaurants, I think, for most people.
    I wasn’t saying Raleigh isn’t a good place to live. Of course it is. I’m simply saying that Raleigh is appearing on many Top Ten Lists that it shouldn’t be on, and it is strange, I’m wondering why. Such as the top ten coffee house cities–how did it get on that?? And top ten public school systems? (no way) Good place to live for singles (no; for families–yes) Top ten affordable cities (no; if you make an average income for this area, and want to buy a house, you have to go outside the city to Zebulon or south of Raleigh) And renting? Talk to people who work downtown. They will tell you they can’t afford to live there anymore. Which brings up one top ten list that Raleigh should not be on– public transit system.
    There are many many good things about Raleigh, and in some areas we probably excel; but not all areas, so why is this city on every top ten list for all kinds of categories? I don’t know. Kind of strange.

  • rhonda

    I agree that Raleigh has a great park system; the greenways, community centers and small neighborhood parks are about the best I’ve seen. Recreation classes and activities at the centers are really inexpensive compared to other cities this size. My favorite thing about Raleigh is the number of ancient oak trees that rival the redwoods. The libraries are good; there’s enough nightlife and good restaurants, I think, for most people.
    I wasn’t saying Raleigh isn’t a good place to live. Of course it is. I’m simply saying that Raleigh is appearing on many Top Ten Lists that it shouldn’t be on, and it is strange, I’m wondering why. Such as the top ten coffee house cities–how did it get on that?? And top ten public school systems? (no way) Good place to live for singles (no; for families–yes) Top ten affordable cities (no; if you make an average income for this area, and want to buy a house, you have to go outside the city to Zebulon or south of Raleigh) And renting? Talk to people who work downtown. They will tell you they can’t afford to live there anymore. Which brings up one top ten list that Raleigh should not be on– public transit system.
    There are many many good things about Raleigh, and in some areas we probably excel; but not all areas, so why is this city on every top ten list for all kinds of categories? I don’t know. Kind of strange.

  • emily

    HELiOS Coffee Company is open till 10pm Sun-Tues. and closes at midnight Wed-Sat! They use counter culture beans which are roasted in Durham!

  • emily

    HELiOS Coffee Company is open till 10pm Sun-Tues. and closes at midnight Wed-Sat! They use counter culture beans which are roasted in Durham!

  • David

    What makes a bean counter-culture? It would rather picket and do drugs than brew?

  • David

    What makes a bean counter-culture? It would rather picket and do drugs than brew?

  • Beth Y.

    Couner Culture is the brand name of the roaster.

  • Beth Y.

    Couner Culture is the brand name of the roaster.